What's the right thing to do?

 


What's the right thing to do?


I work in operations for a startup and unfortunately they have to let some people go for January due to shrinking business. It sucks but there's no choice right now. They are trying to decide what is the best option and I'm curious to hear opinions..

Option A - Give them 2 weeks notice now - I guess the upside is that they have some time to prepare and look for new jobs, but they also have to sit with the news of losing their job at Christmas.

Option B - Let them go same day after new years - hopefully their holidays aren't ruined, but they have no time to prepare.

Knowing neither is a good option, which do you feel is the right approach with the employees best interest in mind?


Jobadvisor

You are right that neither option is “good.” At this point the question is which choice minimizes harm and preserves dignity, trust, and fairness while also protecting the company from avoidable risk. From an employee-interest standpoint, there are some widely accepted principles you can apply.


Guiding principles to anchor the decision

  1. Certainty is generally kinder than surprise
    Employees almost always prefer earlier, honest information to sudden job loss, even when the timing is painful.

  2. Financial continuity matters more than emotional timing
    Pay, benefits, and healthcare coverage often outweigh the emotional discomfort of receiving bad news before a holiday.

  3. Dignity and support outweigh calendar optics
    How people are treated (clarity, respect, severance, support) will matter more than the exact date.


Evaluating the two options

Option A: Notice now (with continued pay into January)

Pros

  • Allows people to plan financially and personally.

  • Enables job searching during a period when many companies begin hiring in January.

  • Signals respect and transparency.

  • Reduces the shock factor and sense of betrayal.

  • Often viewed as more ethical in hindsight by affected employees.

Cons

  • Emotional burden during the holidays.

  • Risk of disengagement or attrition during the notice period.

  • Requires strong communication and management discipline.

Net assessment
If paired with continued pay and benefits through the notice period, this option generally aligns better with employee interests and ethical best practice.


Option B: Same-day termination after New Year’s

Pros

  • Preserves holidays from immediate distress.

  • Operationally clean and decisive.

  • Lower short-term disruption risk.

Cons

  • Employees have zero time to prepare.

  • Immediate loss of income and potentially benefits.

  • Often perceived as deceptive (“they knew and didn’t tell us”).

  • Can seriously damage trust among remaining employees.

Net assessment
This option prioritizes short-term emotional comfort over financial security and is often experienced as more harmful by those affected.


What is usually considered the “right” approach

The most employee-centered path is usually a hybrid of Option A, specifically:

  • Communicate before the holidays with clarity and compassion

  • Provide continued pay and benefits through at least mid- or end-January

  • Make it clear they are not expected to work during the notice period (or offer garden leave)

  • Offer concrete support:

    • Severance (even modest)

    • Healthcare continuation information

    • Job placement resources or references

    • Clear documentation and timelines

This approach:

  • Respects employees’ agency

  • Reduces financial panic

  • Avoids the ethical discomfort of withholding known information

  • Preserves company credibility internally and externally

One critical caution

If the company already knows who will be impacted, delaying disclosure primarily to avoid holiday discomfort is usually perceived as self-serving, even if well-intentioned. Employees almost always figure that out later.


With employees’ best interests in mind:

  • Earlier notice with pay and support is generally the more humane and ethical choice

  • The harm of uncertainty and surprise outweighs the discomfort of difficult timing

  • How you communicate and what you provide matters more than the date itself


All I want to do is drink, get high and make art.


I have had a job since I was 18. Worked customer service, then construction and then IT. And I have found that I hate each and every one of them and all jobs the same.

I’m 35 and just feel like I wasted some of my best years working. Not doing what I enjoy. I left my IT job a few weeks ago and realize this what I want. I want to get high and make music or pick up a camera and create something.

Why is work even a thing?

Is there any career that allows me to just work whenever I want and doesn’t require my full attention and take up my whole life.


Jobadvisor

What you are describing is not unusual, especially for someone who has been continuously employed since a young age. You are articulating a collision between economic reality and human creative desire, and most people are forced to suppress the latter to survive. That tension often surfaces exactly where you are now.

That said, it is important to separate three different issues that are currently blended together for you:

  1. Disillusionment with conventional employment

  2. A genuine pull toward creative work

  3. Escapism (substances, withdrawal from obligation)

If you do not disentangle them, any path you choose will eventually disappoint you as well.


Why work exists (the uncomfortable but necessary answer)

Work exists because:

  • Resources are finite

  • Specialization creates efficiency

  • Society requires contribution before distribution

This is not a moral judgment; it is an economic constraint. Even artists you admire are working—often brutally hard—just in a way that appears freer from the outside.

The problem is not that work exists.
The problem is that most modern jobs are alienating, abstract, and disconnected from visible outcomes or personal meaning. IT, customer service, and construction can all fall into this category depending on the role.


The hard truth about “just making art”

There is no sustainable career that consists of:

  • Working only when you feel like it

  • Minimal attention or discipline

  • No trade-offs

  • Reliable income

Anyone telling you otherwise is either subsidized (family, partner, savings) or selectively telling the story.

Creative careers do not remove work. They replace one kind of work with:

  • Self-direction

  • Uncertainty

  • Rejection

  • Marketing yourself

  • Long periods of unpaid effort

That does not mean they are wrong paths—but they are not escape hatches.


What does exist: Work with autonomy and uneven intensity

There are paths that minimize soul-crushing structure while preserving reality. They share common traits:

  • Output-based, not hours-based

  • Project or contract driven

  • Tolerant of irregular schedules

  • Require discipline but not micromanagement

Examples to explore seriously:

1. Freelance / contract work (using skills you already have)

Not because you love it—but because it buys time and autonomy.

  • Contract IT

  • Tech support for small businesses

  • Systems setup, automation, or maintenance retainers

This can be structured as:

  • 20–25 hours/week

  • Predictable baseline income

  • Mental space for creative work

This is often the bridge, not the destination.


2. Creative work as a parallel track, not a replacement (initially)

Music, photography, video, or mixed media can become income, but usually through:

  • Commercial work (ads, events, content)

  • Licensing

  • Teaching or workshops

  • Patreon / subscriptions (after audience building)

The people who succeed do so by treating art seriously without romanticizing it.


3. Low-status, low-cognitive-load jobs (intentionally chosen)

Some people find peace by choosing work that:

  • Ends when the shift ends

  • Does not invade identity

  • Leaves mental energy intact

Examples:

  • Night security

  • Warehouse (non-management)

  • Groundskeeping

  • Facilities work

This is not “failure.” It is strategic minimization.


About substances (this matters)

Wanting to “get high and make art” is understandable—but substances do not create creativity. They temporarily reduce resistance. Over time, they:

  • Erode discipline

  • Narrow output

  • Turn art into avoidance rather than expression

Most artists who last learn this the hard way.

If art is truly what you want, you will eventually need clarity more than numbness.


The real question you need to answer

Not:

“Is there a career where I don’t have to work?”

But:

“What amount and type of work am I willing to tolerate to buy autonomy and meaning?”

Every adult life is a trade-off. The only choice is whether you make it consciously.


A realistic next step (not a lifetime commitment)

  1. Stabilize income with minimal-identity work (contract, part-time, or low-cognitive-load)

  2. Set a non-negotiable creative schedule (even small)

  3. Treat art as a practice, not an escape

  4. Reassess after 6–12 months with data, not frustration

You are not broken. You are burned out, disillusioned, and craving agency. That is solvable—but not by eliminating work entirely.


Deciding if I should go into nursing school.


So, I finished my first semester of community college for engineering science. My plan currently is to transfer to a four-year after getting my associate’s degree to get my bachelor’s in civil engineering. My CC has a nursing program, and honestly, the stability and two years of schooling is appealing to me rather than a four-year degree. Yes, I know it’s hard, but I’m too indecisive. My thought process is that if I do go through with nursing, I can get my bachelor’s later, because it’s something I want to do and school is always going to be there. But as of right now, I need to get the life train moving, help my parents out, and all that. I guess my question is should I stick with what I’m doing, or say screw it and go nursing? I just don’t want to be a burden to my parents for four years, and there are other reasons why I want to be out of their hair not just being a burden if you know what I mean.


Jobadvisor


This decision is less about “engineering vs. nursing” and more about time-to-independence, financial stability, and tolerance for the work itself. If you evaluate it on those terms instead of prestige or abstract interest, the choice becomes clearer.

I will walk through this in a structured, practical way.


First, reframe the decision correctly

You are choosing between:

  • Path A: Longer runway, higher ceiling

    • 4+ years of school (associate → transfer → bachelor’s)

    • Delayed full-time income

    • More dependence on your parents in the short term

    • Potentially higher long-term earnings and less physical strain

  • Path B: Shorter runway, faster independence

    • ~2 years to employability

    • Earlier income and benefits

    • Ability to move out and contribute financially

    • More physically and emotionally demanding work

Neither path is “quitting” or “settling.” They are simply different optimization strategies.


Key question #1: How urgent is your need to be independent?

Based on what you wrote, this is not hypothetical.

“I need to get the life train moving, help my parents out… be out of their hair”

If staying dependent for four years will:

  • Create ongoing family tension

  • Limit your autonomy

  • Damage your mental health or motivation

…then that cost is real and should weigh heavily.

In that case, a faster credential with strong employability is not a weak choice—it is a strategic one.


Key question #2: Can you tolerate the day-to-day reality of nursing?

Do not decide based on:

  • Job stability alone

  • “Helping people”

  • Pay averages

Decide based on whether you can live with:

  • Shift work (nights, weekends, holidays)

  • Bodily fluids, illness, death

  • High emotional labor

  • Burnout risk

If you cannot tolerate the work environment, the two-year timeline will feel much longer than four years in engineering.

If you can tolerate it, nursing is one of the most reliable “degree-to-job” pipelines that exists.


Key question #3: What is your actual interest level in engineering?

Be honest with yourself:

  • Do you enjoy the problem-solving and math, or just the idea of being an engineer?

  • Are you energized by long-term projects and delayed payoff?

  • Are you prepared for:

    • Heavy upper-division coursework

    • Competitive transfer admissions

    • A job market that can be cyclical depending on region and specialization?

If engineering is something you like but not something you feel driven toward, that matters—especially given the time investment.


A critical point you already got right

“If I do go through with nursing, I can get my bachelor’s later”

This is correct—and important.

Nursing is unusually flexible in this regard:

  • ADN → RN → employer-supported BSN

  • Income while upgrading credentials

  • Multiple exit and pivot points

Engineering is much less forgiving:

  • You typically need the bachelor’s before meaningful entry

  • Less flexibility to “pause” without stalling progress


A practical recommendation based on what you shared

Given:

  • Your desire to get working sooner

  • Your concern about burdening your parents

  • Your acknowledgment that school can continue later

  • Your indecision about a long academic runway

Nursing is the more pragmatic choice right now, provided you can tolerate the work itself.

That does not lock you into a lifetime decision. It buys you:

  • Independence

  • Income

  • Time to think clearly as an adult supporting yourself

Many people make better long-term choices after they are no longer financially or emotionally constrained.


One thing I would strongly advise before switching

Before you decide:

  • Shadow a nurse if possible

  • Talk to current students in the CC nursing program

  • Ask about attrition rates and clinical schedules

  • Understand how competitive admission actually is

Do not decide based on abstractions—decide based on the lived reality.


Bottom line

If your priority is:

  • Stability

  • Speed to income

  • Reducing family strain

Then nursing is not “saying screw it.”
It is choosing momentum.

If your priority is:

  • Long-term technical work

  • Less physically taxing work

  • Higher ceiling with more delay

Then engineering makes sense—but only if you can afford the runway emotionally and financially.


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