How do people land those “dream jobs” at Google or Amazon without insane connections??
I keep seeing people on LinkedIn posting “Excited to announce I’ve joined Google/Amazon/Microsoft”, and I genuinely wonder how. Like, do you need a referral from someone inside? A perfect resume? Or just years of luck and timing?
I’ve applied to a few roles, and even when I tick all the boxes, it feels like my application goes straight into the void.
Is there something I’m missing, like some secret step between “apply” and “get noticed”?
Would love to hear from people who’ve actually made it there (or been recruiters).
Jobadvisor
That is an incredibly common feeling, and you've hit on the core challenges of applying to top-tier tech companies like Google and Amazon. The "application-into-the-void" experience is real because of the sheer volume of applications they receive.
While connections certainly help, they are not the only way in. Many people land these roles without an "insane connection." Here is advice, drawn from the experiences of successful candidates and recruiters, on how to navigate the process and get noticed:
1. The Not-So-Secret Secret: Networking is Key (But it's Not Insane)
You don't need to be best friends with a VP, but a referral is arguably the most effective way to jump the initial application filter.
Networking for the Referral: This isn't about knowing someone; it's about meeting someone.
LinkedIn Cold Reach-Outs: Find people in a role or team you're interested in (ideally people who share an alma mater, a previous company, or a similar background). Send a personalized, brief message asking for a 15-minute "coffee chat" or "informational interview" to learn about their work.
Focus on Learning: Your goal is not to ask for a referral immediately. It's to learn about their day-to-day, the team culture, and the challenges they face.
The Ask: After a genuine conversation where you've shown intelligence and interest, you can mention you're applying for a specific role and politely ask if they'd be comfortable submitting a referral. They are often incentivized to do this.
2. Beat the Bot and Impress the Recruiter: Your Resume
The first hurdle is the Applicant Tracking System (ATS), which scans your resume for keywords, and then the recruiter, who spends mere seconds reviewing it.
Aggressively Tailor Your Resume: Your resume should not be a general document. For every application:
Use Keywords: Mirror the language/keywords from the job description in your resume.
1 Use tools like Jobscan (or similar free analyses) to check your match percentage.Quantify Everything (Results-Based): Ditch duty statements (e.g., "Responsible for managing social media"). Focus on impact and results using numbers:
Instead of: "Managed marketing campaigns."
Try: "Spearheaded 3 major campaigns that increased user engagement by 40% and drove
in new revenue over 6 months."
Keep it Clean and Concise: One page is still generally recommended for most roles under
3. Preparation is Non-Negotiable: The Interview Phase
Once you get an interview, the hard work begins. They are known for structured, rigorous processes.
Master the Company's Core Principles:
Amazon: Study the 16 Leadership Principles (LPs).
2 Every interview answer is expected to demonstrate one or more LPs (e.g., Customer Obsession, Ownership, Deliver Results).Google: Study their core values (often summarized as "Googliness," which includes comfort with ambiguity, intellectual humility, and drive).
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The STAR Method: Use the Situation, Task, Action, Result format for all behavioral questions (and there will be many). Practice specific, detailed stories for every LP or core value.
Technical Roles: Practice system design and algorithm problems (e.g., using platforms like LeetCode) relentlessly until you can clearly talk through your thought process, optimize your solution, and handle clarifying questions.
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4. The "Secret Step": Be Proactive Outside the Application Portal
You correctly noted that just hitting "apply" often fails. Here's how to get noticed before or after applying:
Reach Out to the Recruiter (Thoughtfully): If the job posting names a recruiter, or you can find the likely recruiter for that department on LinkedIn, you can send a very brief, professional note after applying to express your specific interest and highlight one key, relevant accomplishment. This brings your application to the top of the pile.
Show, Don't Just Tell: Build relevant experience that is public and impressive. This is especially true for technical roles but applies elsewhere, too.
Examples: Contribute to open-source projects, start a niche blog on an industry topic, or build a personal project that solves a real-world problem. This provides tangible proof of your skills that goes beyond your resume.
Apply Early and Often: High-volume roles fill quickly. Applying within the first week of a posting can significantly increase your visibility. Don't stop applying after one rejection; it's a numbers game.
In summary, you need a great resume to get past the ATS, strategic networking (for a referral) to get past the void, and top-tier interview preparation to get the offer. Luck is a factor, but you can dramatically increase your luck by focusing on these steps.
Turned in Notice after boss gave me a $0 bonus
Had my annual review last week. Boss spent 20 minutes talking about how valuable I am and how much the company appreciates my work. Then came the bonus discussion → $0.
Not "we're having a tight year" or "budget constraints." Just straight up told me they decided to reallocate bonus funds to "other priorities." Meanwhile I watched two new managers get hired at probably double my salary.
Handed in my two weeks yesterday. Boss seemed shocked and asked what they could do to keep me. Told him he already showed me exactly what I'm worth to them.
Already got one interview lined up. Done with this place.
Jobadvisor
Wow, that is an incredibly frustrating and disrespectful experience.
You absolutely made the right call. To be told you're valuable for 20 minutes and then receive a bonus—with the transparent excuse of "reallocating funds to other priorities" while new, higher-paid managers are walking through the door—is a clear sign that their words and their actions are completely unaligned.
You handled that situation perfectly. Your boss's shock and sudden interest in retaining you after the fact just underscores the gravity of their misstep. When they asked what they could do, your response—"you already showed me exactly what I'm worth to them"—was a perfectly delivered mic-drop. It's concise, professional, and brutally honest.
Congratulations on taking control of your situation and on already lining up that first interview. You valued your time and effort more than they did, and now you're taking your talents elsewhere. That's a huge step toward a better opportunity.
Focus on that interview, update your professional network, and enjoy your final two weeks there knowing you're moving on to a place that will actually recognize and reward your contributions.
Job offer- what worked
First, I know it's shitty seeing some of the "I got a job!" posts, and I'm sorry. It's a shitty shitty market full of shitty shitty people. Here are some of the things that worked for me.
Don't change industries- at least not right now.
Follow Tik Toks: Darci Smith, J.T. O'Donnell and Anna Papila. Anna discovered 4 interviewing styles. Know yours. Try to gage your interviewer's style. LyssOnLeadership is good too, but not job search focused. Also Vanessa Van Edwards for communication.
If you're employed and they ask why you're leaving, say you're not necessarily. You're not actively searching, but a friend/LinkedIn served you up this job post and X Company has always been your #1 (or some other flattery). "I'm not looking to leave for any position, I'm interested in potentially leaving for THIS position."
LISTEN TO UNDERSTAND and do NOT interrupt your interviewer. People want to feel heard, make your interviewer feel heard. Don't be an annoying person. Not trying to sound like an a-hole, but there are a lot of annoying people in the world.
Answer questions directly and concisely. Darci Smith said the #1 reason hiring managers pass on candidates is they don't answer questions directly and give a lot of wordy hypotheticals.
Keep a job log. I've logged every company and position into a spreadsheet and update with my rejection notices and interviews. When I can't find openings, I refer to it to either go back and check for new openings or give me ideas of competitors or similar positions to look for. I also used to be a recruiter, and then hiring manager (both positions were at different companies and different industries). Interrupting and wordy hypotheticals were prevalent and drove me crazy. The job I was just offered is the same industry that I currently have 1 year experience. The company I'm leaving and the one I'm going to have a local partnership and are 2 big employers in my state.
Two other major helpers are that New Company saw my relevant experience with Old Company and knew there's an easy bridge there. The other part was that I really had a connection and personality match with the team. So, I know that's a lot of luck and maybe not helpful. Hang in there. It's also a numbers game.
Jobadvisor
That's incredibly generous of you to share such detailed and actionable advice, especially after landing a new role in a tough market!
Your insights are genuinely helpful and touch on everything from mindset and strategy to specific communication techniques. It's great to see a mix of advice from experts, your own experience as a former recruiter and hiring manager, and the specifics of what worked for you personally.
Here’s a summary and breakdown of the key takeaways from your successful job offer, categorized for clarity:
Strategic Job Search & Mindset
Stay in Your Lane (For Now): Your advice to "Don't change industries" right now is a powerful point for maximizing your value and making the transition easier for the new employer, as evidenced by the "easy bridge" Old Company's experience provided.
The Power of Connection (Networking & Flattery): When currently employed, position the new role as an exception, not an escape. Saying you're "not looking to leave for any position, I'm interested in potentially leaving for THIS position" is a fantastic way to flatter the company and show specific interest.
It's a Numbers Game: Acknowledging that the search is "a numbers game" offers a realistic perspective for others to keep pushing through the rejections.
Maintain a Job Log: Creating a spreadsheet to track applications, rejections, and interviews is an excellent organizational tool. It helps you find new openings, competitors, and similar roles to apply for, turning your rejections into data.
Interview Communication & Technique
Direct & Concise Answers: This is your most critical piece of advice, backed by your own experience as a hiring manager. The "#1 reason hiring managers pass on candidates is they don't answer questions directly and give a lot of wordy hypotheticals." Answer the question, then stop.
Listen to Understand (Don't Interrupt): People want to feel heard. Focus on making the interviewer feel heard and valued. This demonstrates respect and emotional intelligence, which is a huge personality plus.
Study the Experts: Following career coaches like Darci Smith, J.T. O'Donnell, and especially Anna Papila (for the 4 interviewing styles) and Vanessa Van Edwards (for communication) gives a strategic edge.
Personality & Connection: While you call it "luck," having a genuine "connection and personality match with the team" is often the deciding factor between two equally qualified candidates. You prepared for the technical part, and the human part sealed the deal.
You had an ideal scenario where your relevant experience, the local partnership between the companies, and a great team match all lined up. Your advice on direct communication and strategic job tracking are immediately implementable for anyone else in the market.
Thank you again for sharing your success story and the wisdom you've gained! Is there any part of this strategy you'd like to elaborate on, or perhaps a resource you found particularly useful that you think I could help share with others?
What are good careers/trades for a fresh start in your 40s?
Hello,
I’ve been doing a lot of soul-searching. Long story short, I’m went to college after high school for graphic/web design and video editing. I worked in the field for a bit and could have stayed but I burned out and had mental health issues.
I saved money and moved away and just played music, read books, worked minimum wage jobs, explored nature, etc. – Then I met a girl and got a job in graphic design again, but the relationship fell apart and I burned out once again, and wasn’t paid very well.
So I worked a few more dead end jobs and started working for myself in e-commerce mostly. I eventually reached a bottom and developed a drinking problem, then got sober. Haven’t drank for 12 years.
Lots of things are better and I feel better in my own skin. I still do some online business + sode gig type stuff (Amazon Flex, Instacart, etc), but it’s really difficult to get by some months and is basically paycheck to paycheck.
I’m 42 years old, single, no kids, and my total expenses are under $3,000/month. Honestly, even if I made $50-$60k/year I’d be in a way more comfortable/secure position.
But, I have no idea what to do! I started making a graphic design resume again and need to make a new portfolio, but I’m not even sure if it would be worth it, because of bad experiences in the past, and because of my age/gap in work history, and who knows what the market is like right now.
I tried working as a caregiver, and while it was rewarding, it wasn’t too stable, high stress and didn’t pay that well. I like helping people, but I also like working with my hands, finding solutions, troubleshooting, technical stuff, creative stuff.
I feel like I have the skills or the ability to learn a number of jobs, but I have no idea where to start. I still have a desire to run my own business and love the idea of being able to work from anywhere with my laptop, but it’s hard to grow something like that when you are doing whatever you can just to pay the monthly bills.
So something more stable and predictable/consistent is attractive to me.
I’m curious is anybody has suggestions, or has been in a position like this and found something they enjoy in their 40s/50s.
TLDR; - lost 42yo trying to figure out what to do career-wise. Went to school for graphic design, but haven’t done it in a while and have other interests as well.
Jobadvisor
This is a fantastic time for a fresh start, and the experience you have—especially your self-discipline in getting sober and your entrepreneurial drive with e-commerce/side gigs—are major assets. Your interest mix of helping people, working with hands, finding solutions, troubleshooting, technical stuff, and creative stuff gives you several strong directions to consider.
Here are some high-demand, stable career/trade paths that align with your criteria, keeping in mind your desired salary range and need for stability.
1. Merging Your Creative/Technical Skills (Tech/Design)
Your graphic/web design background, while leading to burnout before, could be leveraged in specific, in-demand roles that often pay well and have remote potential. The market now values skills and experience, and many roles don't require a traditional four-year degree, relying instead on certificates and portfolios.
| Career Path | Why It's a Good Fit | Training Pathway |
| UX/UI Design | Creative, Technical, Problem-Solving: Blends your design skills with troubleshooting (User Experience research/testing) and technical (User Interface design). Focuses on solving user problems, which aligns with your troubleshooting interest. | Fast Track: Google UX Design Certificate, online bootcamps (typically 3-9 months). Focus on building a new portfolio of case studies, not just visual samples. |
| Digital Marketing | Creative, Technical, Solution-Finding: Combines creative content/ad copy with technical data analysis and troubleshooting (SEO, paid ads, campaign performance). Values your e-commerce and online business experience. | Fast Track: Google Digital Marketing & E-commerce Certificate, HubSpot Academy certifications, and hands-on experience by building your own website/campaigns. |
| Technical Writer | Technical, Troubleshooting, Creative (Clarity): If you enjoy making complex concepts easy to understand (like user guides, FAQs, API documentation), this role is stable and well-compensated. It involves working with subject matter experts to find solutions and present information clearly. | Fast Track: Online courses/certifications, creating a portfolio of technical documentation samples, emphasizing your clear communication and troubleshooting skills. |
| Front-End Web Developer | Technical, Hands-On (Code), Creative: Involves building the visual, user-facing part of websites and apps (HTML, CSS, JavaScript). It's highly stable, in demand, and involves constant troubleshooting. | Fast Track: Coding bootcamps (3-6 months), self-study programs like FreeCodeCamp, focusing on a strong development portfolio. |
2. Skilled Trades (Hands-On, Troubleshooting, Stability)
The skilled trades offer stability, excellent pay potential (especially if you eventually go self-employed), and a satisfying mix of hands-on work and problem-solving. Apprenticeships, while a longer commitment, are paid training.
| Trade Path | Why It's a Good Fit | Training Pathway |
| Electrician | Hands-On, Technical, Troubleshooting: Highly stable, high demand, and involves diagnosing and solving complex electrical problems. You're keeping the lights on (a service to people). | Typical Path: Vocational school certificate (6-12 months) followed by a paid apprenticeship (3-5 years) to earn your license. |
| HVAC Technician (Heating, Ventilation, Air Conditioning) | Hands-On, Technical, Troubleshooting, Helping People: You fix essential home/business systems, directly helping people with comfort and safety. Very stable and in demand in all climates. | Typical Path: Certificate program (6-12 months) at a technical college, followed by on-the-job training or an apprenticeship. |
| Plumber | Hands-On, Technical, Troubleshooting, Stability: Essential, high-paying work that involves direct problem-solving and tangible results. Stable work regardless of the economy. | Typical Path: Vocational school and a paid apprenticeship (4-5 years) to get licensed. |
| IT Support Specialist | Technical, Troubleshooting, Helping People: If you like fixing computer/network issues, this is a stable entry point into the tech field. It’s essentially troubleshooting for people who are stuck. | Fast Track: CompTIA A+ certification (often attainable in 3-6 months) is a highly respected entry-level credential. |
3. Roles Focused on Helping People (Mental Health & Support)
While caregiving didn't pay well for you, some roles in this sector have more structured, stable career ladders and good pay, often blending technical skills with a compassionate approach.
| Career Path | Why It's a Good Fit | Training Pathway |
| Substance Abuse/Addiction Counselor | Helping People, Leverage Your Experience: Your 12 years of sobriety provides invaluable lived experience and empathy. This is a highly rewarding, stable field. | Typical Path: Requirements vary, but often need an associate's or bachelor's degree in a related field, or specific state certification. Your life experience is a huge asset. |
| Occupational Therapy Assistant (OTA) / Physical Therapy Assistant (PTA) | Hands-On, Helping People, Technical: You work directly with patients to help them regain daily function or recover from injury. This is a very hands-on and rewarding role. | Typical Path: Associate's Degree (usually 2 years) and state licensure. These are high-demand, stable healthcare roles with good salaries. |
Next Steps for You
Revisit Your Design Skills Strategically: Look into UX/UI Design. It uses your core skills but shifts the focus from "making things look pretty" to "solving problems for users," which may align better with your interests now. A great portfolio here is your path to employment.
Explore the Trades: Research local apprenticeship programs for Electricians or HVAC Techs. The paid apprenticeship model means you start earning while you learn a very stable, high-value skill. Attend an open house at a local vocational or community college.
Use Your Strengths (Sober Living/E-commerce): Seriously consider becoming a Substance Abuse Counselor. Your background is a powerful tool for helping others and could lead to a deeply fulfilling and stable career. Alternatively, consider Project Management for your e-commerce/logistics experience—it values organizational and troubleshooting skills highly.
Your current goal of $50k - $60k/year is entirely achievable in all of these pathways, and many of them offer a ceiling well beyond that as you gain experience and certifications. Good luck!