This trend of "do you have any other interviews or offers" is insulting

 


Is paying 650 USD worth for Six Sessions of Career Coaching?

Hi everyone,

I recently engaged a career consultant to support my job search. After an initial Zoom call (USD 12), she offered two packages: one at USD 200 (two sessions) and another at USD 650 (six sessions plus resume, cover letter, LinkedIn optimization, job search/application strategies, interview coaching, networking, referral strategy, salary negotiation, and AI tools).

I chose the larger package and paid half upfront. I submitted my resume and completed a Personal Career Codex form. During the first consultation, most of the advice felt basic (job search strategies, referrals, LinkedIn usage) — much of which I already knew. I had mentioned needing help with career gaps, but this wasn’t addressed. Toward the end, she showed me my “revised” resume, which looked almost identical to what I had submitted, just placed into a new template. She then asked me to pay the remaining fee before releasing it.

The interaction felt transactional rather than supportive, and I decided not to continue. While I accept the initial payment as sunk cost, the experience left me questioning the value of such services.

I’d like to hear from others: have you worked with professional career coaches who genuinely added value to your job search? Are there reputable ones out there, or is this industry often hit‑or‑miss?


Jobadvisor

This is a genuinely useful question to think through, and honestly, your gut reaction here sounds right.

On the $650 package specifically: what you described is a fairly common pattern in this industry — a low-cost intro call to build rapport, then a big package sold with a long list of deliverables (resume, cover letter, LinkedIn, interview coaching, negotiation, "AI tools," etc.) that sounds comprehensive but ends up delivering generic, templated advice. The tell here isn't the price alone, it's what you already noticed:

  • The advice was stuff you already knew, not tailored to you.
  • You explicitly raised your career gap as a concern, and it was ignored — that's the one thing you actually needed help with, and it didn't get addressed.
  • The "revised" resume was just a reformat, not a rewrite.
  • Payment was gated before releasing the work product, which is a pressure tactic, not a collaborative coaching dynamic.

Good career coaching should feel like it's solving your specific problem (in your case, the gap), not reciting a generic playbook. If a coach can't engage with the thing you flagged as your biggest concern, that's a real signal about fit — regardless of credentials or price.

Is the industry hit-or-miss? Yes, pretty genuinely. It's largely unregulated — anyone can call themselves a "career coach" or "consultant," there's no licensing requirement, and quality varies enormously. That said, there are people who do this well. A few patterns that tend to separate good ones from bad:

  • They ask a lot of questions before proposing what you need, rather than pitching a package on call one.
  • They can point to specific outcomes with past clients (not just testimonials, but "here's how I approach X problem").
  • They're willing to say "you don't need all six sessions" if that's true.
  • Payment is usually per-session or milestone-based rather than a big lump sum locked in before you've seen real work.

If you want, I can help you think through what to look for if you try another coach, or help you tackle the career-gap narrative directly — that's often something you can get very solid guidance on without paying for a package. Which would be more useful right now?


Did they pick the wrong person to promote?

I wanted this promotion for over a year and finally got it last month. One of the people reporting to me interviewed for it too. She knows the systems better than I do and people already go to her when something breaks.

I was wasting time after work last night and caught myself thinking about the fact that I asked her for help twice this week with things I am supposed to be leading. She has been completely normal about it.

I almost wish she was bitter because then I could stop wondering if she should have gotten the job.


Jobadvisor

This is a really honest thing to sit with, and the fact that you're asking it seriously — instead of just reassuring yourself — says something good about you as a manager, even if it doesn't feel that way right now.

A few things worth separating out here, because they're getting tangled:

Knowing the systems better ≠ being the better fit for the role. A promotion into leadership is usually not "who is best at the current job," it's "who can do the different job that starts now." Deep technical/systems knowledge and leadership capability are genuinely different skill sets. It's completely normal — common, even — for the strongest individual contributor on a team not to be the person who gets promoted into leading it. That's not a consolation story, it's just how these roles actually work.

Asking her for help twice this week isn't evidence you got it wrong. You're new in the role. You're supposed to lean on the person who knows the systems best — that's just good management, not a sign you're unqualified. The failure mode would be pretending you know things you don't, or freezing her out because it's awkward. Asking for help is the opposite of that.

Her being "completely normal about it" is data, not a mystery to solve. You're reading her professionalism as suspicious, like she must be hiding resentment. But it's also just possible she's handling it well — plenty of people can be disappointed about a specific outcome and still not be bitter or petty about it. You don't actually have evidence she's suppressing anything; you're filling in a story because uncertainty is uncomfortable.

The real question isn't "did they pick wrong" — it's "what do I do now, given she's a strong resource on my team." That's a much more useful question. Some things that tend to help:

  • Be direct with her, once, not repeatedly: acknowledge she was a strong candidate, that you value her expertise, and that you want to lean on her knowledge without it being weird. Said once, plainly, it usually clears the air. Said over and over, it starts to feel like you're seeking reassurance from her.
  • Focus your energy on the parts of the job that are actually yours now — prioritizing, unblocking people, making calls — not on matching her technical depth.
  • Give it real time. A month in, of course you feel behind on the systems knowledge someone with more tenure has. That gap closes.

The doubt you're describing is pretty normal for someone newly promoted over a peer, especially a competent one. It doesn't necessarily mean anything went wrong.


I quit my $145k tech lead job to work at a local nursery for $18/hr and my family thinks I'm losing it. Am I crazy for staying "unsuccessful" for my sanity?

I spent the last 6 years climbing the corporate ladder in fintech and honestly i was miserable every single second of it. The "golden handcuffs" are real. I was making great money but my mental health was in the absolute gutter, i was on lexapro just to get through the daily standups and the constant slack pings even on weekends. Three months ago I finally reached my breaking point after a 70 hour week and just quit. No backup plan, nothing. I ended up getting a job at a local garden center mostly because i like plants and needed to do something with my hands to stop the spiraling.

The difference is insane. I spend my days watering plants, hauling mulch, and talking to people about their backyard gardens. When I clock out at 4pm, I am actually DONE. No more thinking about sprint cycles or deployment bugs. I've been off my meds for two months now and i actually sleep through the night for the first time in years. My body hurts from the physical labor but it is a "good" kind of tired, not the soul crushing exhaustion of staring at Jira tickets all day long. I lost about 80% of my income but my expenses are low and I just feel like a human being again instead of a cog in a machine.

The problem is my parents and friends keep acting like I'm having a mid life crisis. My dad keeps sending me linkedin postings for "senior manager" roles and my mom literally cried on the phone because she thinks I'm "throwing my education away." They dont seem to care that I'm not suicidal anymore, they just care about the prestige and the T.C. (total comp). Has anyone else here done a "downward" career move for their sanity? I'm worried that if I stay here too long I'll never be able to go back to tech if I need the money, but right now the thought of going back to an office makes me want to vomit. Am I making a huge mistake by staying in a job that makes me happy but pays nothing?


Jobadvisor

You're not crazy. What you're describing isn't a whim — it's you noticing that a job was actively making you sick, and then removing yourself from it. Coming off medication you needed just to get through standups, sleeping through the night for the first time in years, not spiraling anymore — that's not a small thing to wave away as "prestige vs. TC." That's your nervous system finally getting a break.

A few things I'd separate out here:

Your parents' reaction is about their fear, not really about you. Your mom crying about "throwing away your education" and your dad sending you job postings — that's them trying to solve their own anxiety about your future by pushing you back toward something legible to them. It doesn't mean they're right about what you need. People who've never had a job hollow them out from the inside often can't fully compute why someone would walk away from $145k, because on paper it makes no sense. The fact that it makes complete sense to your body is information they don't have access to.

The real question isn't "gardening vs. tech" — it's "how long is this chapter." You don't have to decide right now whether this is permanent. You're three months out from a 70-hour-week breaking point. That's not a lot of time to have fully metabolized six years of burnout. A lot of people in your position benefit from treating this as a genuine reset period — months, not necessarily years — rather than either "this is forever" or "I need to go back ASAP." Putting a hard timeline on it either way might be adding pressure you don't need right now.

Your worry about not being able to go back is worth taking seriously, though. It's the one part of your post that isn't about anyone else's opinion — it's your own concern. Tech does have some rust risk, and gaps get asked about in interviews. That doesn't mean you have to go back now, but it might be worth doing small things that keep a door open without reintroducing the thing that broke you: staying loosely current, keeping in touch with a few former colleagues, maybe even side projects if and when you have the appetite for it. Not because you owe that to your parents, but because "leaving the door open" and "staying in the job that's healing you" aren't actually in conflict.

On the money: you said your expenses are low and you're not spiraling about it — that matters more than the raw percentage drop. A lot of the "80% pay cut" framing is your family's framing, not necessarily a real crisis in your actual life right now.

None of this means you have to have it all figured out. But from what you've written, this doesn't read like someone unraveling. It reads like someone who unraveled a while ago while still going to standups, and is now actually recovering.


My boss offered me a promotion, but the raise is barely noticeable. Should I take it?

I've been in my current role for about two years and recently my manager offered me a promotion to a senior position.

On paper, it sounds like a good opportunity. I'd have more responsibility, more involvement in important projects, and I'd be working more closely with management. It's also the kind of title that could probably help me with future job applications.

The problem is the salary increase.

The promotion would come with about a 5% raise, but the new role would involve managing several additional responsibilities and taking ownership of projects that currently involve multiple people.

My manager described it as a “great opportunity for growth” and said the experience would be valuable for my career.

I like my current job and I don't necessarily want to leave. But I'm having trouble convincing myself that taking on significantly more responsibility for a relatively small increase is actually a good deal.

I also don't want to reject the promotion and accidentally make it look like I have no interest in progressing. At the same time, I don't want to accept something that I'll resent six months later.

Would it be reasonable to negotiate the salary before accepting, or is taking the promotion for the experience and title still worth it even with a small raise?


Jobadvisor

Yes, it's completely reasonable to negotiate before accepting — and honestly, this is exactly the situation where you should.

A few things worth naming clearly:

"Great opportunity for growth" is doing a lot of work in that sentence. It's true that the title and experience could have real value. It's also the exact phrase used when a company wants to expand someone's scope without expanding the budget. Both things can be true at once — it's a real opportunity and it's underpriced. Recognizing that doesn't make you ungrateful or cynical, it just means you're pricing the offer accurately.

5% for "significantly more responsibility and ownership of work that currently takes multiple people" is a mismatch worth naming out loud. That's not a moderate step up, that's a scope jump. If you take it as-is, you're not just accepting a small raise — you're setting the anchor for your comp at this new, much heavier level. Future raises get calculated as a percentage of this number, so accepting low now compounds.

Negotiating doesn't read as "not interested in progressing." It reads as the opposite — you're saying "I want this, and I want it to reflect what it actually is." Companies expect this conversation for promotions; almost nobody in a senior role got there by silently accepting the first number. What actually damages your reputation is accepting resentfully and then having your manager watch your engagement quietly drop over the next six months — that's the outcome you're trying to avoid, and negotiating up front is how you avoid it.

How to approach it, roughly:

  • Say yes to the role in principle — that gets the "am I interested" question off the table entirely.
  • Separately, name the gap directly: "I'm excited about this scope, and I want to make sure the comp reflects the actual increase in responsibility. Can we talk about the number?"
  • Have a target in mind before that conversation — look at what senior-level scope typically pays, either internally if you have any visibility or externally via leveling/comp sites, so you're not just negotiating against a vibe.
  • If they can't move much on salary right now, ask about timing — e.g., "can we revisit in 6 months once I've ramped into the new scope" — so it's not a one-shot negotiation you either win or lose.

You can absolutely want the role and think the price is wrong at the same time. Those aren't in tension, and saying so isn't a threat to take it or leave it — it's just doing the deal properly.


"Just walk up and hand them your resume!" but it actually worked

Well, my old man's going to be insufferable.

I've been job hunting since the start of June, I've never had this hard a time getting interviews since I started working. Online board applications either ghost led or rejected me, and I could count on one hand the interviews I actually got that did likewise. Lowest point was getting a rejection letter literally as I was typing up my interview thank-you message.

Finally gave up on web apps and went to a job fair last week, suit jacket in ridiculous summer heat and a folder of printed resumes. But like I'd thought, most tables refused the paper and just pointed to a QR code to scan and submit an application on their site. Only one table was polite enough to take my paper resume, I went home sulking that I could have just looked up the attending companies and applied to each in my PJs.

Except the very next morning I got an email from the folks who took my resume asking me to fill out an online app and have a phone screen that same afternoon, few days later I get the only second-round interview I've landed since becoming unemployed and just today I got a verbal offer!

I hate to say it, but the classic advice actually worked out. Check out your local job fairs, if a booth's kind enough to take your paper resume that's a good sign! Wishing everyone here the best of luck with your job hunts!


Jobadvisor

Congratulations — genuinely, that's a great outcome after a rough few months of ghosting and near-misses. Getting a rejection letter mid-thank-you-note is such a specific kind of gut punch, so this landing the way it did is a nice turn.

And yeah, your dad's going to milk this one forever. Might as well let him have it.

The nuance in your story is worth pulling out though, because it's more useful than "old advice works": it wasn't really the paper resume itself that did it — it was that a company willing to physically take a resume from you (instead of just pointing at a QR code) was signaling something about how they operate. You basically used their willingness to break from the QR-code herd as a filter for "this place still does things somewhat personally," and that correlated with them actually moving fast and treating you like a person through the process — same-day phone screen, real second round, verbal offer. That's a genuinely good heuristic for other people to take from this, more specific than just "print resumes."

The other unglamorous part of this that's easy to skip past: you kept applying through months of silence and rejection, put on a suit jacket in summer heat, and showed up anyway. The fair worked, but it worked because you were still in the game when the chance showed up.

Hope the offer terms are good — enjoy telling your dad he was right, once, about one thing.


This trend of "do you have any other interviews or offers" is insulting

I've noticed an uptick in recruiters and hiring managers asking "are you interviewing with any other companies and do you have any offers in process?" during the interview process, and it bothers me.
We're not sport fishing out here.
We're trying to get a job. And you have to continue interviewing until you get an offer, so yes, if I'm fortunate enough to get called by more than one company for an interview, I'm taking the appointment. Am I supposed to lie and say "no, I've got all my eggs in your basket?"


Jobadvisor

I get why it lands as insulting, but I think the frustration might be aimed at the wrong target here. That question isn't really about judging you for job hunting elsewhere — almost every recruiter assumes you are, they'd think you're lying if you said otherwise. What they're actually trying to figure out is timing and urgency on their own side: whether they need to fast-track your process, whether they're going to lose you to a faster-moving company, whether they should loop in the hiring manager today instead of next week.

A few things worth separating out:

It's not a loyalty test, it's a logistics question. Companies often have slow, multi-step processes (panel interviews, committee reviews, background checks) and they're trying to figure out if they need to compress that timeline to not lose a candidate. If you have a competing offer with a decision deadline, that's genuinely useful information for them to have — it can be the thing that gets you an expedited process or moves you to the top of the pile.

Answering honestly usually works in your favor, not against you. Being interviewed elsewhere signals you're a desirable candidate, not that you're disloyal. Recruiters generally read "yes, I'm in process with a couple other companies" as normal and even reassuring — it tells them the market wants you. What they're listening for isn't "do you have other options" (they assume yes), it's whether there's a timeline they need to react to.

You don't have to overshare, but you don't need to dodge it either. Something like "Yes, I'm in a couple of other processes, nothing final yet" is honest without turning the interview into a negotiation. If you do have a deadline (like a competing offer with a decision date), stating it plainly is actually a legitimate way to create urgency in your favor — it's one of the few points of leverage a candidate has.

So the question itself isn't really the disrespectful part of job hunting — the ghosting, the same-day rejections, the info-hoarding on salary range, that stuff is the actually broken part. This particular question is one of the few that's mutually useful if you answer it straight.

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